Village Web Site Forum
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Thursday, September 20, 2012 00:50 |
Is there a local nominal roll for Suttoners who served in WW1?
Hi, I'm interested in finding out whether a complete list of names exists for all Suttoners who served during the Great War.
We already know that 241 men from Sutton served & returned and 40 'fallen' did not return. Quite a lot is known about the 40 'Fallen' servicemen, but it's the surviving 241 men that I would like more information on if possible.
I have a list of 20 definitely from Sutton (including your dad David) and another 105 that cover Sutton, Crosshills & Glusburn, but I’m after the whole lot and just from Sutton!
There are only 2 places I can think that may have a complete nominal roll of all who served.
1. Inside St Thomas’ Church or possibly the Chapel 2. Parish Council committee minutes 1914 – 1918
It’s also possible that the Bairstow’s & Hartley’s kept records of mill workers who enlisted. Or maybe a local book was published with the names to commemorate the peace celebration of 1919. I am of course clutching at straws here! I suspect no such list exists although it bloody well should do considering what these men had to go through.
Anyway, if anybody knows anything please yell out, I’m all ears! |
David Laycock
Friday, September 21, 2012 20:42 |
Hi Andrew, I am currently in Cowling and will be moving up to the Lakes District on the 29th. I don't know where to start either, but agree with your comments. |
Joan M. Tindale
Cowling
Saturday, September 22, 2012 13:56 |
I did lists and also two albums of our Cowling men who lost their lives - 59 WW1 and 10 in WW2 - always updating with any new information. I have the list of our Bar Chapel men who "served", and there is a list at Cowling Hill Baptists of those who "served" -some of these lost their lives, others didn't - there was also one in the old cricket pavilion, another in Ickornshaw chapel, and I have an old Hartleys Mill wages book which gives details of those who had gone to WW1 - those who were under age and those who were too old- so our Cowling details were in quite a few places, some now demolished - would ask John Richardson of Craven's Part in the Great War site, he is very good. I also wondered where the full list had got to - think I do have a list of our men who went to WW2. Yes, Parish Council minutes for 1914 might have some info., or even the local newspapers in Skipton or Keighley libraries. Did they go to Halifax to enlist - maybe there is some info.there? |
David Laycock
Sunday, September 23, 2012 08:44 |
HI Andrew and Joan, Funny we are staying at Cowling Hill Farm next to the Chapel which I gather is having it Harvest Festival today. We won't be attending, as we are off down to Sutton Baptist with my cousin Ruth and David. Regards David. My local Mob is 07831482461 should anyone wish to get in contact with me.
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Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:52 |
I'm trying to compile a complete list of the 241 men from Sutton who 'served & returned' during WW1. So far I've managed to put together 60 names drawn from various sources including service files that survived the London Blitz in 1940 (70% were destroyed), newspaper extracts from WW1, Great war pension files, historical extracts here on this website, etc.
There is the Air Raid Wardens photo from 1940 in the gallery complete with all the names and many of them donning Great War medals. But I need to be certain that they both served AND lived in Sutton at the time of the Great War – does anybody know?
In addition, the following names were supplied by Tony Ingham as being first owners of ‘The Acres’ blocks. Would these 10 men definitely have been from Sutton prior to the war? I’m assuming they would have been, hence being beneficiaries of this donated land.
Ernest Bennett Ernest Berry Harry Daffern Hubert Ellison Mr Horner Morrell Mr Phillips Willie Richmond Bill Tate Bill Tickle
The following is the ‘grand list’ so far. If anyone is able to help out with additional names that would be most appreciated. As I say, I’m only interested in servicemen from Sutton at the moment, not Crosshills or Glusburn. It’s the 241 Suttoners I’m trying to identify. N.B. ex-Suttoners John Leonard Haggas and his brother Raymond Haggas (below) are almost certainly not in the 241 tally, but 2 of their brothers were killed & are listed on the Sutton war memorial so I've added them to the list.
Harry Akrigg - Sutton in Craven - Royal Fusiliers James Irwin Beecroft - Sutton nr Keighley - ASC (MT) John Boardman - Sutton in Craven - 11th Yorkshire Bertram Lancelot Calvert Harry Calvert Hubert Chaffer - Sutton in Craven - King Edward's Horse John William Clough - Sutton nr Keighley - DLI Arthur Cockshott - Sutton in Craven – RFA Willie Davey Herman Davy Leonard Davy Reg Ellison - Duke of Wellingtons Henry Edgar Grass - Sutton in Craven - West Riding Harry Greenwood - Sutton nr Keighley - Duke of Wellingtons Walter Greenwood - Sutton in Craven - West Riding William Hackston – (twin brother of Thomas Hackston listed on Sutton war memorial) John Leonard Haggas - (originally from Sutton. Served in the USA army during WW1 Raymond Haggas - (originally from Sutton. Served in the USA army during WW1) Arnold Hall - Sutton Mill nr Keighley - West Yorks Harold Hanson - Sutton in Craven – RFA Allan Hargreaves Fred Hargreaves - Sutton in Craven - West Riding Morris Hargreaves - Sutton in Craven - Labour Corps Reginald Harris - Sutton nr Keighley - West RidingCharles Preston Hathaway - Sutton nr Keighley - 6th Duke of Wellingtons William Hayton - Sutton nr Keighley - West Yorks Alfred Haywood - Sutton in Craven - Royal Irish Fusiliers Arthur Haywood - Sutton in Craven - RFA George Lee King - Sutton Mill, Keighley - Welsh Rgt Charley Knowles - Sutton nr Keighley - RFA Donald Laycock - Sutton in Craven – DLI Tom Lister – 10th Battalion Duke of Wellingtons Richard Lowe - Sutton in Craven – RE Cyril Midgley Hector Roberts Noble - Sutton in Craven - West Yorks John Norton - Sutton in Craven – 3/6th battalion, West Riding Regiment Edward James Parker - Sutton in Craven - Essex Reg Alfred Pounder - Sutton in Craven - RFA Thomas William Pye - Sutton in Craven - ASC (MT) Harry Robinson - Sutton nr Keighley - Brigade of Guards Walter Robinson - Sutton in Craven - 83rd Training Reserve Joseph Henry Sharp - Sutton in Craven - RFA Charles Simons - Sutton in Craven - 1st Garrison KOYLI Leonard Simons Samuel Simons Alfred Smith Conyers Smith - Sutton in Craven - RFA Henry Wilfred Smith - Ellers Sutton nr Keighley - Training Reserve Horace Smith - Sutton nr Keighley - Training Reserve Fred Spencer Arthur Stirk - Sutton in Craven - West Riding James Summersgill - Sutton nr Keighley - 6th Duke of Wellingtons Thomas Henry Summersgill - Sutton nr Keighley - 6th Duke of Wellingtons Richard Taylor - Sutton in Craven - West Riding William Lister Whitaker - Sutton in Craven – RGA James Whitehall Joseph Whitehall Tom Whitehall Fred Whiteoak - Sutton Nr Cross Hills - 2nd West Yorks Ralph Whiteoak – Harker St, Sutton Mill, Duke of Wellingtons |
Denis Marshall Pickles
Norfolk
Thursday, November 1, 2012 14:57 |
Add the names of Raymond Whittaker and Tom Lister Ellison. |
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Thursday, November 1, 2012 20:26 |
Thanks Denis, I'd already listed Tom Lister, but will change that to Tom Lister Ellison. Raymond Whittaker will now be added, thanks again. |
Robin Longbottom
Oakworth
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 09:58 |
Just to hand I have:-
Thomas William Pye (Tom) - Cragg Farm - Army Service Corps Eddie Feather, - Hartley Feather - Willie Feather - all 3 brothers of 19 Park Lane - D of W's WR Regt Fred Feather - no address, may not have lived in Sutton before war - Tank Corps Sydney Spencer Smith - Eastfield Place - Seaforth Highlanders Ernest Stell - Mill Hill, Sutton - D of W's WR Regt - (brother of Percy Stell killed in Dardanelles 1915). Prince Ratcliffe - Rosewood Square - Northumberland Fusiliers. Charles ? Horner - Elm House - Regt?
I seem to think that Willie Riley (lived at top of Ellers) and David Coleman also served, but I may be wrong. Does any one know?
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Paul Wilkinson
webmaster
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 12:15 |
I've just added a page to the history section titled "More Old Sutton Warriors" containing an article by Robin Longbottom about three of the Suttoners named above who returned. |
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 13:34 |
Thanks very much for the additional names Robin. The three Feather brothers Eddie, Hartley & Willie caught my eye. A medal collecting friend of mine has the British War Medal & Victory Medal to Hartley Feather in his collection.
I’m now hoping that the Northallerton County Records Office hold information on the 241 men from Sutton who served & returned. I should get an answer back within the next couple of weeks.
I’ve just read your latest article in the history section "More Old Sutton Warriors". Once again a fascinating account detailing three of Sutton’s Great War veterans. A wonderful picture of Fred Feather sitting on the bench outside the Kings Arms too. Great work Robin, well done. |
Lynda Blundell nee Phillips
Vancouver, Canada
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 16:32 |
I believe my paternal grandfather George Phillips of 5 Holmfield Place served in WW1. |
Denis Marshall Pickles
Norfolk
Thursday, November 8, 2012 14:50 |
Three more for your list: Col Bateman Major Clarkson Albert Overend |
sarah elizabeth eccles
Skirethornes, Grassington
Friday, November 9, 2012 21:56 |
My dad , Charles Granvil Midgley was in W.War 1 . I think he was a gunner . (he lived in Holly Bank in Sutton in the 1911 census)
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Julie Pirie
Selby
Saturday, November 10, 2012 14:25 |
It is good to see John and Raymond Haggas included in the list they are brothers to Walter and William both honoured on the Sutton Memorial. All four are my Great Grand Uncles. Julie |
John Laycock
Sutton in Craven
Saturday, November 10, 2012 19:42 |
Julie, I was interested in your post re the Haggas brothers. My grandmother Annie was their sister. John Laycock |
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Saturday, November 10, 2012 21:31 |
Julie and John, you have my attention, (how are you John by the way?).
Wilst there is already an image of William Gordon Haggas in the book 'Cravens Part in the Great War', we are sadly missing a photo of Walter Haggas. Would either of you be 'in the know' as to how to source one?
John, your grandmother Annie - was she called Martha Annie but went by the name Annie?
Final question if I may: whilst John & Raymond Haggas served with the US forces, is anything known of their WW1 service?
Thanks Sarah, Denis & Lynda for the additional names to be added to the list. |
David Laycock
Saturday, November 10, 2012 21:39 |
Beat me to it John. Saw the surname when Andrew posted the list. Julie good to hear from you. I still have a couple of souveners that Ada? Stephanson gave to us when she visited many years ago. I think she was related to Haggas. I remember going up to John's place to see her with my Dad Donald. John might correct me on this. |
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Sunday, November 11, 2012 07:52 |
It looks like Raymond Haggas returned to England from New York on 19th June 1935. He was a UK Incoming Passenger on board the Cunard White Star ship 'Majestic' which docked at Southampton, England on that date. |
Julie Pirie
Selby
Sunday, November 11, 2012 14:02 |
WOW! Nice to meet you all - John & David are we relatives! Charles Haggas brother to Annie and Walter,William, John and Raymond was my Great Grandfather, his daughter Alice Haggas was my Grandmother who married Walter Jobling ( Cowling) Raymond did travel back to the UK for a visit but returned to America where he lived till he passed away. As far as I am aware the rest of the family remained in America or Canada apart from Charles (my great grandfather brother to Annie etc) story behind that! Andrew - I was hoping you had a picture of Walter as I am also missing one. I was due to take a trip to New York in October this year to keep hunting my family but a Hurricane spoilt my plans! I know I have living relatives there but still trying to trace them. Julie |
John Laycock
Sutton in Craven
Sunday, November 11, 2012 18:53 |
Andrew, I'm fine. Sorry I don't think I can help you with a photo but will have a look around. See below.
Julie, I recognise most of those names. I had contact with the USA branch of the Haggas family about 10 years ago but this is too long a story for this posting. Perhaps you would like to contact me directly via Paul Wilkinson who will be able to supply you with my e mail address and I may be able to help you. |
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Sunday, November 11, 2012 20:45 |
Hi Julie & John, yesterday I placed a request on Great War Forum for more info' on John & Raymond Haggas. I asked if anything was known of their WW1 service in the US army. I received the following response (so far):
"According to the 1915 New York state census, John L Haggas had been resident in the USA for 7 years, although there is also a listing on ancestry for the New York passenger lists dated 1909, departing from Liverpool on the Lusitania. Both he and his brother Raymond are listed on the census as working as laborers in a plush mill.
Ancestry also has US draft registration cards for WW1 - John L Haggas is not listed under those and does not appear to have served, although he may not have been called up. Not all who registered did so.
Raymond has more promise - there is a listing under the US Department of Veteran affairs (deaths index) stating that he died 30 April 1978 (DOB 14 May 1895) and served in WW1. 2 dates for enlistment - 4 June 1917 and again 15 July 1917. Discharged 29th April 1919. No service number given though only the SSDI -Social Security Death Index. Interestingly, there is also a registration for him under WW2 aged 46. This was for work at a naval shipyard in Portsmouth Virginia. Next of kin was Ruth Haggas, also in Virginia.
There is another brother called Luther Haggas born in 1883, who did register for the US army under the third draft for September 1918. He was aged 35, a farmer in Oneida County, New York. He appears to have arrived in the USA in 1910 having left from Liverpool on the SS Zeeland for Boston. Previous address given as 32 Main Street, Eastburn, worked as a plasterer back in England."
So a third brother Luther Haggas also enlisted into the US army albeit very late in the war. It is of course possible that he may not have seen overseas action depending upon the length of his army training, etc.
Raymond on the other hand saw action in WW1 and also enlisted during WW2, albeit his WW2 service was home-based.
As for John Leonard Haggas who appears not to have served (according to the above), a West Yorkshire Pioneer newspaper article dated 18th January 1918 reporting the death of Sapper William Gordon Haggas clearly states "Two other brothers, John Leonard Haggas and Raymond Haggas (the youngest son), have recently joined the United States Army". So just because Ancestry has not yet listed a US draft registration card for John L Haggas doesn't mean to say he didn't serve.
So it looks like John Leonard & Raymond 'pioneered' off to America (aboard the cruise ship 'Lusitania' which was famously sunk by the German’s in 1915) several years before the rest of the family decided to join them from Sutton.
John & Julie if I may, I would like to remain involved in the quest to find out more about the Haggas family, particularly their wartime roles and also to try and locate a photo of Walter Haggas. My email address can be obtained from the Webmaster, I would very much like to be copied in on any relevant Haggas family discussions – thanks! |
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Wednesday, November 14, 2012 04:41 |
OK, more info' from 'Great War Forum' courtesy of Ellen from Keighley. The US draft registration cards for John Leonard, Raymond & Luther have now been tracked down.
John Leonard Haggas & his brother Raymond Haggas both enlisted into the US army on the same date, June 5th 1917. Both gave their home address as 3, Kirkland, Oneida, New York. Luther Haggas enlisted into the US army on Sept 12th 1918
John Leonard was aged 28, his date of birth being July 19th 1888. He was married with one child and had brown hair & blue eyes (just for the record!).
Raymond was aged 22, his date of birth being May 14th 1895. He was recorded as being single with brown hair & brown eyes.
Luther was aged 35, his date of birth being July 6th 1883. He was employed as a farmer and had black hair & blue eyes.
Unfortunately I have just discovered that 80% of USA Service records were destroyed in a fire in 1973, so these US registration cards may be the only Great War information in existence on these 3 brothers. Quite unbelievable, especially after a similar thing happened to the UK Great War service papers in the London Blitz fires of 1940.
Daniel, also a member of Great War Forum provided some genealogy information as follows:
Raymond Haggas was born on May 14th 1895 and died in New York on April 30th 1978. He is buried in Crown Hill Cemetery, Clinton, Oneida, New York. His wife Ruth Agnes Phillips was born on July 16th 1900 and died in New York on Sept 23rd 1978. They were married on July 9th 1919.
They had 3 sons & 1 daughter. Their names:
1. Adelbert Walter Haggas (the middle name was presumably after Walter Haggas (his uncle) who was killed in action on 11th Nov 1914 2. Walter Mons Haggas (again after his uncle Walter who fought at the battle of Mons before being killed in Nov 1914) 3. Raymond Haggas (like father like son!) 4. Dona Mae Haggas
Still no image of Walter Haggas, but I can’t help thinking that’s it’s only a matter of time before one surfaces. I feel like a bloodhound with the scent of Walter’s photo almost detectable with every new line of enquiry! |
Sylvia Dowgill
Sutton
Wednesday, November 14, 2012 19:59 |
Try the website cpgw.org info on Cravens part in the Great War . |
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Monday, November 26, 2012 02:33 |
Hi Sylvia, yes CPGW website is a great resource :-)
Going back to the 241 men from Sutton served & returned, I received the following response from the Northallerton County Records Office:
"Thank you for your email and for the jpeg image. I'm now able to view it and I see that it comes from the Sutton-in-Craven Parish Council minute book (PC/SUT). I've checked the entry which notes that a list of the men who served in the Great War was submitted to the meeting and was later to be put up in a public place for inspection. I'm sorry to say that, unfortunately, the list does not survive with the Parish Council papers which we hold here and I fear that it may not survive at all. I regret that we have not been able to help you further on this occasion and that the result of the search is so disappointing."
So they acknowledge that a list of the men who served was originally submitted to the Sutton-in-Craven Parish Council meeting and was placed somewhere for public inspection, but that the list does not survive with the Parish Council papers.
Has anyone got any idea where this list may be found? I’m struggling to believe that such an important piece of village wartime documentation would have been purposely destroyed or discarded.
Clerk, have you any thoughts or suggestions please? |
Clerk
Monday, November 26, 2012 10:10 |
Andrew,
When I took over the position of Clerk documents which were passed over to me were archived at the North Yorkshire County Office.
Listed are separate War Memorial Committee Minutes dated 1919-21 (which I presume from your statement above you have a copy).
The only other information I can offer is:
In the Minutes at the Parish Meeting (held once a year) held at the Holme Bridge Council School on Wednesday, July 9th 1919 at 7.30pm. Mr Laurence Preston, chairman of the Parish Council, presiding, and about 30 persons present it is written:
"That we express our deep sympathy and condolence with the parents of those lads who have lost their lives in the war."
After considering a few suggestions as to what to have for a war memorial or what would be suitable, it was resolved unanimously "that a Bronze Statue of a Soldier in full kit with a pedestal containing all the names of the fallen, be erected in the Park on the site which was set out for a Band Stand."
It was also unanimously resolved on the motion of Mr James Bairstow seconded by Mr Albert Clough "That a book be printed (and well got up) for having all the names of those who have served in the forces entered in, and other particulars as to what they have been in i.e. Army, Navy or Air Service with particulars of Regiment, Ship etc. also including all the names of those who have fallen."
Resolved that the following persons shall be appointed on the War Memorial committee, with members of the Parish Council, Miss Bairstow, Rev. A.R. Light, Rev. F.J. Bloice Smith, J.W. Whitaker, Alfred Clough, Thomas spencer, N.B. Chaffers, and Ernest Armitstead, also each place of worship to be asked to appoint four ladies.
I am sorry I do not have any further information other than the above.
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Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Monday, November 26, 2012 11:22 |
Many thanks Clerk for your quick response. The Minutes taken at the Parish Meeting held on July 9th 1919 certainly make very interesting reading.
I am now wondering whether or not the proposed book listing all the names of those who served in the forces was ever printed. I’ve never seen or heard of this book, but hopefully somebody else has and perhaps has a copy.
My apprehension is that no such book was ever published probably due to the cost involved. As you have mentioned, the Minutes of the July 9th 1919 meeting state that it was resolved unanimously "that a Bronze Statue of a Soldier in full kit with a pedestal containing all the names of the fallen, be erected in the Park…..".
We now know that this idea proved to be too expensive at £900, as after letters were circulated to all homes in the parish, the local people made donations which amounted to £200, which was £300 less than the committee had hoped for. They did however have some funding (about £400) towards the memorial so they opted for the Great Cross and four bronze panels instead.
Anyway, it is certainly a useful lead. Does anyone know if such a book existed/exists? I'll probably never stop looking! Thanks again Clerk. |
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Friday, December 14, 2012 05:36 |
Well amazingly, a Nominal Roll for Suttoners who served in WW1 has now been located……in St Thomas’ Church! Many thanks to the webmaster Paul Wilkinson for taking his camera & tripod to the church and diligently photographing the Roll into readable segments. It contains the handwritten names of 250 men from, or associated with Sutton who served during the Great War. The names were recorded in no apparent order, some with the letters R.I.P. added against them at a later date.
The Roll includes 18 of the names listed on the Sutton war memorial, which of course means that a further 22 names on the memorial are not mentioned on the Roll. In addition there are a further 22 names of Suttoners who appear to have served, but who are also missing from the Roll.
So all in all, the grand total of Suttoners who served during WW1 (40 of whom never returned) is in the order of 294. It is of course still possible that not everybody has been accounted for, but I think this is as close to the true number as we’re going to get.
I have transcribed the 250 names from the Nominal Roll into alphabetical order as follows. I’ve also added a few comments in (brackets) that are not mentioned on the Roll:
1. Albert Akrigg (Died from Wounds 1925, St Thomas’ Church Roll of Honour listing the 'Fallen') 2. Horace Akrigg 3. Harry Archer 4. Stanley Archibald (Sutton war memorial) 5. Ernest Armistead 6. John William Armitage 7. Alfred Bancroft 8. Spencer Barrett 9. William Barrett 10. Wilson Barrett 11. Edward Barrow 12. Edward Barrow (duplicate?) 13. Charles Malcolm Bateman 14. James Beecroft 15. Harry Bennett 16. Ernest Berry 17. Arthur Bottomley 18. Harry Bottomley 19. Fred Butterfield 20. Harry Calvert 21. Hubert Chaffers 22. Norman Bairstow Chaffers 23. Edward Chapman 24. Robert Chapman 25. William Chapman 26. John Cheshire 27. Herbert Clough 28. John William Clough 29. Joshua Valentine Clough 30. Norman Clough 31. Oswald Clough 32. Wilfrid Clough (Sutton war memorial) 33. Arthur Cockshott 34. David Coleman 35. Ernest Cooper 36. William Cooper 37. James Cowling 38. Tom Davey (Sutton war memorial) 39. William Davey 40. Alick Davy 41. Herman Davy 42. John Davy (Sutton war memorial) 43. Leonard Davy 44. George Deighton 45. Ernest Dessant 46. John Dickinson 47. Earl Drake 48. Joseph Drayton 49. Stanley Duffill (Sutton war memorial) 50. Fred Eals 51. John Eals 52. Fred Earnshaw 53. John William Earnshaw 54. Herbert Ellison 55. Reginald Ellison 56. Tom Lister Ellison 57. Fred Fawcett 58. John Albert Fawcett 59. Eddie Feather 60. Hartley Feather 61. James Owen Feather 62. Albert Edward Fisher 63. Hanson Garnett 64. Ralph Gladstone R.I.P. (Kildwick war memorial) 65. Arthur Gott 66. Clarence Grainger 67. Herbert Grainger 68. Norman Grainger 69. Harry Grass 70. Edgar Green R.I.P. (Sutton war memorial) 71. Frank Green 72. Edward Greenwood 73. Harold Greenwood 74. June ? Greenwood 75. Joseph Henry Greenwood 76. Walter Greenwood 77. Harry Grimston (Kilwick, Cononley & Eastburn war memorials) 78. Thomas Hackston R.I.P. (Sutton & Eastburn war memorials) 79. William Hackston 80. Tom Haigh 81. Arnold Hall 82. Thomas Hall 83. Victor Hall 84. Willie Hall 85. Harry Happs 86. William Hardacre 87. Alan Hargreaves 88. Eshton Hargreaves 89. Fred Hargreaves 90. Fred Hargreaves (duplicate?) 91. James Hargreaves 92. Morris Hargreaves 93. Laurrie Hargreaves 94. Maurice Hargreaves (Eastburn war memorial) 95. Percy Hargreaves (Sutton war memorial) 96. Smith Hargreaves 97. Stephen Hargreaves 98. Walter Hargreaves 99. Edward Harper 100. Edward Harrington 101. Norman Harrison 102. Charles Preston Hathaway 103. William Hayton 104. Alfred Haywood 105. Arthur Haywood 106. George Haywood 107. Edward Hiscoe 108. John Edward Holdsworth 109. Arthur Horsfall 110. John William Horsfall 111. G. J. Hudson 112. George Hudson 113. Walter Hyde (Sutton war memorial) 114. Willie Hyde 115. Richard Jolly 116. David Jones 117. Ernest Jones (Sutton war memorial) 118. Alan Kidd 119. Harry Kidd 120. George Lee King 121. Joseph King 122. Charles Knowles 123. Lewis Robert Lawson 124. Donald Laycock 125. Sam Laycock 126. Arnold Leach 127. Clifford Leach 128. Frank Leach 129. Sidney Linwood 130. Ronald Livett 131. Harry Lynch 132. John Lynch 133. Joseph MacVay 134. Matthew Mcalloney ? 135. Charles McHenry 136. Harry McHenry 137. John Melia 138. Charles Granville Midgley 139. Cyril Midgley 140. Percy Midgley R.I.P. (Sutton war memorial) 141. Ernest Middleton 142. Frank Moore 143. Henry Moorhouse 144. Daniel Morrison 145. Kenneth Walton Naylor 146. Joseph Nelson 147. Harry Noble 148. Hector Robert Noble ? 149. John Norton 150. Albert Overend 151. Percy Overend (Sutton war memorial) 152. Edward James Parker 153. Harry Parker 154. Urich ? Parkins 155. Abraham Pearce 156. Abraham Pearce (duplicate?) 157. Clifford Petty 158. James Petty 159. George Phillips 160. Herbert Phillips 161. John William Preston 162. Ben Pullan 163. Thomas William Pye 164. Robert Ramsbottom 165. Clifford Ratcliffe 166. Prince Ratcliffe 167. John Read R.I.P. (St Thomas’ Church Roll of Honour listing the 'Fallen') 168. William Read 169. William Richmond 170. John Henry Ridsdale 171. Alwin Riley 172. Arthur Riley 173. James Wilson Riley 174. Thomas Douglas Riley 175. Thomas Lund Riley 176. William Riley 177. Harry Robinson 178. Walter Robinson 179. Harry Saville 180. Charles Shackleton 181. Frank Shackleton 182. John Shackleton 183. Joseph Henry Sharp 184. Edward Shepherd 185. Charles Shirley 186. Charles Simons 187. Leonard Simons 188. Leonard Henry Simons 189. Sam Simons 190. William Robert Simons (Sutton war memorial) 191. Alfred Smith 192. Conyers Smith 193. Harlan Smith R.I.P (Sutton war memorial) 194. Harold Smith 195. Reginald Smith (Sutton war memorial) 196. Sidney Spencer Smith 197. Wilfred Henry Smith 198. Alan Spencer 199. Hugh Spencer 200. John Vivian Spencer 201. William James Spencer 202. Percy Stell R.I.P. (Sutton war memorial) 203. Norman Stephenson 204. Ernest Stell 205. Arthur Stirk 206. Arthur Storey 207. John William Summerskill 208. George Taylor 209. John William Taylor 210. Reginald Taylor 211. Richard Taylor 212. Edward Teale 213. Tom Tempest ? 214. Harold Thornton 215. Thomas Edward Thornton 216. James Tial ? 217. Arthur Utley 218. Charles William Volentine 219. Amos Wagstaff (Sutton war memorial) 220. Daniel Wagstaff 221. Willie Wagstaff 222. Charles Waite 223. Harold Waite 224. James Cyril Waite 225. Willie Waite 226. Thomas Henry Walker 227. Charles Waltham ? 228. Frederick William Walton 229. Herbert Walton 230. William Lister Whitaker 231. Fred Whitehall 232. Joseph Whitehall 233. Thomas Whitehall 234. Fred Whiteoak 235. Harry Whiteoak 236. Ralph Whiteoak 237. William Whiteoak 238. John Willie Whitham 239. Frank Whittaker 240. John Raymond Whittaker 241. Norman Widdup 242. William Wigglesworth 243. John Wilmore 244. Vivian Wilmore 245. Alec Wilson 246. Harold Wilson R.I.P. (Sutton war memorial) 247. John Thrascin ? Wilson 248. Wilfrid Wilson 249. Harold Wilton 250. Edward Wiseman
As already stated, the following 22 names listed on the war memorial are not mentioned on the Nominal Roll. They are however included on a separate Roll of Honour in St Thomas' Church listing the 'Fallen':
Joseph Greenwood Bancroft Charles Eric Ivan Calvert Evelyn Fisher Walter Haggas William Gordon Haggas Willie Hargreaves Arnold Heeley Cedric Fawcett Horsfall Samuel (Harry) Lund Nelson Widdup Petty Edgar Pullan Norman Riley Frederick Simpson Arthur Smith Gordon Smith William Blake Spencer Thomas Henry Summerskill Henry Taylor Frederick William Thompson Albert William Tune Richard Whitehall Edmund Wilkinson
Finally these are the remaining 22 names of Suttoners who served, but who are also missing from the Nominal Roll:
Ernest Bennett John Boardman Bertram Lancelot Calvert Harry Daffern Fred Feather Willie Feather Harold Hanson Reginald Harris Charles Horner Tom Lister (Tom Lister Ellison – same person?) Richard Lowe Elsie McColgan (Died in 1928, St Thomas’ Church Roll of Honour listing the 'Fallen') Morrell Alfred Pounder Henry Wilfred Smith Horace Smith Fred Spencer James Summerskill Bill Tate Bill Tickle James Whitehall Raymond Whittaker |
Reina Pearson
Newmarket Ontario Canada
Friday, November 9, 2018 21:01 |
Hartley, Eddie and Willie Feather are my Great Uncles. They are the uncles of my Mother Nellie Foulds and she often talked of them. Hartley and Eddie served in Mesopotamia and were never the same after they were gassed there she said. I would be very interested in any photos or information you might have about this family. Thanks. Reina |
Reina Pearson
Newmarket Ontario Canada
Sunday, November 11, 2018 18:19 |
Thanks to this website I have found some good information about my Great Uncle Eddie Feather and his service during the Great War. I discovered that he was wounded on 2 separate occasions but returned to France to fight again and received the Military Medal for Bravery in battle in 1918. He served until 1919 when he could return home finally. Thanks so much. |
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Monday, November 12, 2018 20:12 |
Hi Reina, yes looks like your Great Uncle Eddie was awarded a gallantry medal for 'bravery in the field' on the 18th July 1918 whilst serving with the 2/6th West Riding Regiment. He was also awarded the Victory medal on the 16th July 1919 and the British War Medal on the 30th August 1919. He was wounded in action with shot wounds to the right arm on the 3rd May 1917. Prior to the war he was a weaving overlooker and lived at 19, Park Lane, Sutton. |
Reina Pearson
Newmarket Ontario Canada
Sunday, November 25, 2018 19:45 |
Thanks. I was particularly surprised to know that my Great Uncle Eddie returned to the battlefield . twice after being injured. The fact that all three brothers made it back to England knowing that so many did not is truly amazing to me. |
Joan M. Tindale
Cowling
Friday, December 14, 2018 23:06 |
To: Julie Pirie, Selby - you should find a picture of Walter Jobling in "Cowling a Moorland Parish" 1980 at his loom in the mill. Are you Yvonne's daughter? Joan Tindale nee Binns, Cowling. |
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