Paul Wilkinson
webmaster
Monday, January 13, 2014 12:20 |
Stone markings opposite the Dog and Gun
Joan Tindale sent the following:
Always wondered what the initials stand for on these stones. Anyone know please (at Malsis opposite Dog and Gun).
Joan Tindale, Cowling.
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Joan M. Tindale
Cowling
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 13:49 |
Sorry - had another look - a bit further down towards the bridge. Thanks. |
Robin Longbottom
Oakworth
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 18:37 |
This stone is one of two double boundary markers that were erected along the Blackburn, Addingham and Cocking End Turnpike Road (opened 1783), now Colne Road. They mark the old boundaries of the Sutton Township and Glusburn and Sutton Township and Cowling (and are just under a mile apart). The letters E.S. appear on both stones above 'Sutton' and may stand for Edward Spencer, the Spencer's bought Malsis Hall estate about 1781 and the turnpike road passed through land owned by this family. The letters H.D. above Glusburn may also refer to a land owner at that time. Unfortunately the stone at the Cowling boundary is damaged and the top is broken off above the word 'Cowling', any letters that may have been here are therefore missing. I would be interested to know if anyone has a pedigree of the Spencer family. |
Joan M. Tindale
Cowling
Friday, January 17, 2014 20:22 |
Thanks for that interesting information. Although not in Sutton, but on Ickornshaw Moor - you might also be able to tell us about another stone. Will forward photo scan soon. Wonder if they should be listed?
Think the Spencers also owned Raygill Quarry, Lothersdale. Their daughter the late Mary Heyes?remember her - left money in trust which is still being used today.
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Robin Longbottom
Oakworth
Friday, June 13, 2014 06:34 |
Joan, Further to your enquiry with regard to the initials ES and HD on the boundary stone on Colne Road. It appears that it is just co-incidence that the letters ES appear above Sutton, had the stone been at the other side of the road ES would have been above Glusburn and HD above Sutton. The letters actually run together and stand for East Staincliffe Highways District. The East Staincliffe Highways Board was created under the Highways Act 1862 and took over responsibility for local highways, including the former turnpike roads, the trusts were dissolved at this time. Similar stones can be found at Addingham/Draughton, Thornton/Foulridge and Cracoe/Rylstone. |
Joan M. Tindale
Cowling
Sunday, June 15, 2014 20:31 |
Thanks for that - another one solved! Wonder if the stone should be listed, which would probably be up to Glusburn - now in their parish I think. |
Terry Longbottom
Valley
Monday, June 16, 2014 09:37 |
Hi Joan, you’re right about one thing due to the recent boundary changes it is a redundant boundary marker it also applies to the one at lane ends. The boundary was at these points long before 1783 when the stones were installed. Whoever changed the boundary and for what reason other than a political one I will never understand. Maybe the stones like the boundary should be consigned to the Craven District Council tip. |
Joan M. Tindale
Cowling
Monday, June 16, 2014 18:59 |
16 Cowling dwellings (original old farms with their converted outbuildings) which were near the Lothersdale/Cowling border are now in Lothersdale! Very sad when they once formed a large part of our Cowling heritage! Brush and Summerseat, and New Hall, Lower Lane Ends Farm and cottage are now in Cowling from Sutton! Lumb Mill is still in Cowling while Malsis is now in Glusburn I think!
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