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Denis Marshall Pickles Norfolk Wednesday, April 3, 2019 09:42	The Nook In the 65 years since I left Sutton to make my way in the big wide world, things have changed a lot. I remain in touch with happenings in the village by referring to this web site and I find myself getting a wee bit niggled if there isn’t something new in the Forum column. In my childhood, long before the days of television, computers and mobile phones, local news was disseminated by way of the Keighley News and the Craven Herald. But these newspapers were only published weekly and i’m certain that matters of local interest were mainly conveyed by word of mouth. Some call it gossip! Correct me if i’m wrong but I believe that the chaps who used to stand at the Nook, smoking and nattering must have played an important part in this process. It was a good vantage point - elevated and having good vision over comings and goings up and down the Main Street. If the Nook is still used as a ‘kall-oile’ (and I doubt it!) are the topics under discussion things like Brexit and parking problems rather than, ‘Who won the pigeon race last Saturday?’
Brenda Whitaker Queensland Australia Saturday, April 6, 2019 22:34	Denis - I wonder how many, excluding we oldies, know you are talking about The Kings Arms?
Steven Brown Brookfoot Sunday, April 7, 2019 21:22	If you look at old photographs people used to stand around on street corners passing the time of day (when did men stop walking around with their hands in their pockets?) The truth is that a lot of life was lived in public places. On an evening people used to dress up and promenade, the purpose was to see and be seen. Now we cower in our little boxes hardly knowing our neighbours never mind what happens in the village. What's lost is a sense of place, of belonging. Having said which most people wouldn't have a clue what I'm talking about.
Brenda Whitaker Queensland Australia Saturday, April 13, 2019 03:15	Steven - I suspect we were a much happier and accepting community 'back then' !.. the demands of society were less because communication systems didn't continually bombard us with 'what we are missing'. I am pleased to have lived in a time where friends and neighbours were important to our every day life, when jealousy of material possessions were an incentive to improve our lives not to obsess and demand someone got them for us without any personal effort or expense. Just recently I learned a new line dance to an old song, Magic Moments - it reminded me of the first radiogram we had, plus only two 78 records played over and over until we could buy another one- such a magical time. But, today, I love the immediate access to friends on the other side of the world, to news that is seconds old not weeks waiting for it to be shown on 'Movietone'... photos that I get of my family withing seconds etc etc - but yes, the closeness of a community has been replaced by many things - as an OBE - Over Bloody Eighty... life is good,and I love the memories and enjoy the advantages of today. Hope all of you do too.
Jane Chatterton Overseas Sunday, April 14, 2019 14:52	Dennis, I think the King’s Arms was called The Newk, my grandmother lived opposite at 45 High Street. On a warm summers day the regulars sat “callin” outside on the bench. Somewhere I have a photo taken by my mum or dad outside the Newk. Probably the conversation was about local football,cricket or if David’s fish and chip shop was open. I am trying to remember who sat there - perhaps I shouldn’t. Steven, you are right a sense of community has been lost in many villages, sometimes because the village size has doubled, trebled and newcomers are “offcumdens” who have to work hard at integrating or prefer to not to. For those of us who have left the village and return from time to time there are some who will stop and have a long talk and a very few who appear to resent our move” wasn’t it good enough for you!” Brenda, my sister Ann prompted this message! We have just face-timed and she told me about your OBE. Both Alan and I have OBE’s, we must remember to put it on a letter head! Like you we enjoy our lifestyle, watch the rugby and little else on TV, garden,garden,garden. Envy no-one and enjoy having our sons and their families here on holiday. Keep up the Line dancing Brenda. My attempt at that would have had you crying with laughter.
Denis Marshall Pickles Norfolk Sunday, April 14, 2019 19:22	‘Nook’ or ‘Newk’? Which is it? I don’t suppose it matters one jot. It’s a word that we heard as youngsters and I spell it as I think I heard it! What does it mean? Is it just a name for a place? A corner or a cranny? I always thought it referred to that elevated piece of causeway or footpath opposite Ivan Spences’ shop. Jane thinks it refers to the Kings Arms. But we are all in the general location! One old Suttoner who frequented the Nook (and perhaps the Kings Arms for all I know) was Tom Lister Ellison who lived at the bottom of West Lane. Tom was my friend Brian Wilcock’s grandad and Brian would often have a word with his grandad if he was holding court with his mates as we passed by. I’m jiggered if I can remember any more names!
Terry Longbottom Valley Sunday, August 25, 2019 10:14	At the top of Kings Court behind the top co-op stood the Kings Arms the old one that was. the business was transferred to the position that it now occupies keeping the same name Kings Arms.to help differentiate between the two the later being the NEWKings arms.
Denis Marshall Pickles Norfolk Monday, August 26, 2019 05:49	Terry, Thanks for the latest piece of information re the NEWK! You really are remarkably well informed. Your explanation as to how the Newk came to be so called makes good sense. Where do you do all your ‘digging’? Now if I lived somewhat closer to the village, I would love to be ‘educated’ by you on a number of matters which have been running through my mind. You’d have the answers i’m sure! A couple of hundred years ago, long before motor cars and metalled roads, when walking was the common way of getting from one place to another, or maybe if you were a little more affluent you’d use a horse and perhaps a cart, where were the tracks? There would have been a track from LowFold over to Sutton Fields and Glusburn, Bent Lane on to Cowling, and how did the ancient parishioners get to Kildwick Church? Or perhaps before the enclosures people just wandered.

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