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Alan Pickles Wednesday, April 5, 2006 14:34	Sutton County Primary School. Mrs. Belton's class, 1947 I have a photograph of the above mentioned class and wonder how many of them are still resident in the Sutton area. John Teal, Andrew Belton, David Barrett and John Dixon, are I know. Are any others? I do not appear to be able to transmitt the photo to the webmaster but would willingly post one on or drop one in, if you let me know where.
Paul Wilkinson webmaster Wednesday, April 5, 2006 14:45	Hi Alan I will gladly include the photo in the site gallery. It would be great if people contributed names etc to this topic thread too. I'm not sure why you're unable to transmit it to me, but if you drop it off at the Park Pavilion I'll scan it in and load it onto the site.
Paul Wilkinson webmaster Monday, April 17, 2006 17:09	Many thanks for the photo, which I've scanned in and added to the gallery section. If anybody can fill in any missing names, please add a message to this thread with details and I will update the caption on the photo. Also, if you're on the photo, please add a message here and let us know how you're getting on!
jane chatterton Saturday, June 10, 2006 13:41	Hello Alan, My parents, Mr George and Mrs Mary Walker now aged 90 and 91 who live at Croft Hill, Sutton, sent me the picture. I am now Jane Chatterton, born Jane Walker and am at the end of the second row of the photo. I now live in France. Eileen Nutley is shown at the beginning of the first row. She went to Australia and died very young. Not absolutely certain but I think the girl to the right of Mrs Belton is Georgina Currie. Can't understand why Brenda Grimes is not in the picture. She lives in Australia. Best wishes Jane Chatterton
webmaster Saturday, June 10, 2006 16:30	Hello Jane Thanks for your message, I've updated the names on the photo. Could you clarify which side you mean by "to the right of Mrs Belton" - to the right on the photo (marked as Gwen Harrison?) or to Mrs Belton's right hand side (marked as ?) - I wasn't sure which to mark as Georgina Curry. Regards paul w webmaster
Jane Chatterton Tuesday, June 13, 2006 06:24	Hello Paul, Sorry about the confusion. The girl on Mrs Belton's right hand side is I think Georgina Curry. Best wishes Jane Chatterton
MAUREEN GREEN (WALKER) Thursday, June 15, 2006 09:58	helllo there, Mrs. Beltons class1947. Still in the Village, work at Allan Green & Son Ltd. Engineers, keep busy, still singing, Village Hall Committee, and C of E School Governors (Chair) Back Row, to right of John Holden ,Brian Simons (not Simmons) Third Row to right of Enid Foster is it Ann Laycock? Second Row to right of Charlie Cadwallader, Georgina Brown, far right Jane Walker Front Row first left Eileen Nuttall Fond memories of happy days
Paul Wilkinson webmaster Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:32	Hello Maureen Many thanks for posting your message and providing updates on the names. I've amended the details on the caption in the site gallery. Are you sure it's Eileen Nuttall on the front row, and not Eileen Nutley? Regards Paul Wilkinson
MAUREEN GREEN Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:02	not positive about Nuttall,but always thought of Charlie Nuttall ie. Crosshills Picture House. Dr. Andrew Belton (son of Mrs. Belton. ) Does anyone remember who the girl to the left of Jane Walker is? they lived Bridge Terrace end house nearest School when they moved into Village
Alan Pickles Monday, July 3, 2006 18:55	Could the name be Eileen Knutton? The other missing name for the girl near the end of the middle row (next to Jane Walker)I have a feeling might have been Sylvia or Sandra. She was not Sutton born and bred coming into the class after Miss Alderson's class. Brenda Grimes was often away from school looking after the family. This was no doubt one of those times. She figures on another photo which I let the webmaster have, at the opening of the slide. Thanks for the correction on Brian Simons. I think I must have hit the m key once too often. Thanks both for showing an interest and for your contribution. Pleased that some of us are still around. Colin died twenty years ago and Margaret Naylor passed away a few years ago. Just how many more are gone I don't know.
Stuart Mackenzie Sunday, August 20, 2006 18:42	Paul, Regarding the name of the girl Nuttley/ Nuttall, she was my cousin and was named Nuttley. Both her and another cousin Joan Warmsley were bridesmaids at my parents marriage at Kildwick church in '43. Eileen lived with her parents George and Kate, and brother Terry, at an end of terrace house adjacent the Beck and opposite the watergates/sluice to Horsefalls mill dam. The whole family "upped sticks" in '58 to find a new life in Australia and from what I have heard since they found it lucrative and pleasing. Joan Warmsley, who is an only child, lived with her parents, Edmund, (who was the Chief Engineer at Horsefalls) and his wife Silena, in the Lodge bungelow, which was sited in splendid isolation, (at that time) threequarters of the way to Eastburn on the road out of Sutton. It is of course still there but a little less isolated now that the "new" small estate has been built at the end of the road. I refer to the estate as new because I don't have it in my "minds eye" when I think of the area, even though I remember all that time ago, having a small part in its building, for it was while on embarcation leave for the Far East that I took a short term job with the building firm, to add financially to my leave pay for evening social life. Joan married Barry Mcvay, also of Sutton and they had two children Kevin and Julie, and though they all lived in Sutton for many years they too followed the Nuttley's to the Antipodes where they appear to have prospered also and have remained ever since. Best regards Stuart
Paul Wilkinson webmaster Sunday, August 20, 2006 19:28	Hi Stuart Thanks for the name correction and the fascinating story! I've updated the caption on the photo in the gallery. By the way, I passed your email address on to Josie but there was a problem sending to it. The address ends in ".com.uk" - can you confirm this is correct, or alternatively, click the "email the webmaster" link below and send an email directly to me - I'll then forward on the "from" address to Josie. Paul
Stuart MACKENZIE Sheffield Monday, August 21, 2006 18:47	Paul, Josie has managed to untangle my "E" address and asked for details of my family. However my apologies to you for the extra use of (uk) which appears not to be part of it. Best regards Stuart
Alan Pickles. Monday, August 28, 2006 18:39	Hello Paul, Thank you for the clarification of Eileen's surname. The location of her home had me fooled for a minute. You refer to the mill as Horsfall's, in fact it was Hartley's. Horsfalls is Hayfield at Glusburn. The estate you refer to helping to build sounds like the Council estate in Sutton mill. Another large private housing estate has now been built on what was T. & M. Bairstow's mill site. This has extended Sutton mill housing considerably since the days you refer to. Joan Walmsley is another name out of the past and the name McVay registers although not the face to go with it. Something stirs a memory of ,I think, an Eddie McVay who was something to do with the Co-op. Thanks for your contribution and the memories it stirred.
Stuart Mackenzie Sheffield Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:52	This for Alan P. Alan, To my chagrin, memory failed me, Horsfalls/Hayfields is indeed at Glusburn, and as my infant years were spent at Glusburn school and my apprentice years spent at Bairstows, one would have thought it inconceiveable that names of these erstwhile establishments could be so easily mislaid in the mists of time. The mill referred to was Bairstows and the small estate was at the Keightley/Skipton Road end of the lane out at Eastburn. Stuart
Alan Pickles Tuesday, August 29, 2006 16:22	Stuart, Thanks for the reply. Like everyone else, age affects the memory. The estate you refer to is the one opened by Richard Todd, the actor. I had difficulty in lining an estate up along the road out of Sutton in that direction. Have you been back recently? As I remarked n the poem, Not a lot changes. Seriously, the village is looking well at present and the Park is a credit to those who are responsible for it's upkeep. I passed this morning and was pleased at the feeling I got when doing so. It is still a smashing little village and retains the village atmosphere.I'm no doubt biased. This straying from Mrs. Belton' class. Do you think we will be told off?
Stuart Mackenzie Sheffield Thursday, August 31, 2006 20:39	Alan, "Told off"? Absolutely not! It's this type of thread which throws up things interesting and revealing, if this site is to "live", and I sincerely hope it does, then "Mrs. Beltons class" photograph will be responsible for more than just the education of those "skolars" alone. I, for example, am ten years after, but have in interest in the "thread" due to Eileen Nuttley, who although my cousin, appeared light years away because of the age difference. This in turn throws up interesting conversations with people I may have seen but never met. If we had been told all those years ago at Sutton school, that we would be doing such as this via something called the Internet, then it would have seemed even further out than the most outrageous unbelieveable Dan Dare story. As for returning to the area, I haven't been this year and the pull is becoming stronger, so the Aire valley is due a visit soon. And of course a stroll through the park. Best regards Stuart.
kevin mcvay Australia Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:25	re Joan walmsley. hi to cousin stuart, a name from out of the past, as you were in the guards when we left for australia and i can only remember your mum and dad fred and florence being grandma walmsleys sister and brother in law who we visited on occasions. my grandad edmund was the chief engineer at bairstows mill in sutton and lived at the lodge on the road out of sutton for many years until his death. He and my grandma, only had the one child, joan who married barry mcvay in 1953 and had two children, me kevin in 1954 julie in 1956 and andrew in 1968 just before we decided to emigrate in 1969. Grandma walmsley (selina Banks) then left for australia to be with her only daughter joan and 3 grand children in 1973 and her sister my aunty kate nutley, eileen's mother, in sydney. We still have close contact with the Nutley family through Terry. Unfortunately only my mother remains to tell us all about the history of our early lives in sutton as all the relatives have died. we all follow the news in sutton on the website and all find it a delightful read. having been back in 2000 and often keep in touch with school friends i feel the world is a very small place indeed. so stuart if you could please reply, my mum joan mcvay would love to catch up on all the news.Barry mcvay, my father passed away last year and his father tommy worked at the co op in sutton around the corner from mill street were my father and his sister audrey grew up. ( School picture C of E school circa 1938) Aunty Audrey Doyle still lives in Crosshills.
alan pickles Wednesday, October 11, 2006 09:25	Reference Mrs. Belton's class photo. The girl shown as Ann Laycock is NOT correctly named. Whilst both were tall and came from the Crosshills end of Holme Lane, Ann had black hair and a rounder face.
Jane Chatterton Wednesday, January 31, 2007 17:45	Hello to Kevin McVay and more so to your mum Joan. We visited your mum and dad inthe early 1990's and remember the house and garden very well. Your dad and aunt Audrey lived next door to us in Sutton Mill and I remember you grandma and grandad very well, a lovely couple. Your mum used to live next to my grandma in High Street Sutton - 47High Street?- when she was young before moving to Eastburn Road. Best wishes to your Mum Jane [Walker] and Alan Chatterton
Alan Pickles Friday, February 2, 2007 18:49	Hello Jane, I realise now where the surname comes from. I had forgotten that you married Alan. Do you remember the missing names. Another name and face that I remember from that class is George Morrison. He must have been off that day. I lost touch with him and many of the others when I went to do National Service. Thanks for joining in the debate and keeping memories alive. Alan P.
JaneChatterton ( Walker) Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:44	Hello Alan, You certainly started something with that photo! Yes I do remember George Morrison and know someone who I think might know of him now. "Eileen lived with her parents George and Kate, and brother Terry, at an end of terrace house adjacent the Beck and opposite the watergates/sluice to Horsefalls mill dam." I know this was corrected to Hartleys but Eileen and her family lived off the High Street in Sutton - right hand side as you go up the road behind where The Mission used to be. I used to go there often before they went to Oz. Prin Ratcliffe also lived up there. I can't remember the name of the group of houses but will ask my mother tonight when I phone. At 92 she has an amazing memory but only hope she doesn't ring at 2.00am when she the light has dawned. Best wishes Jane C
Denis Pickles Norfolk Thursday, March 22, 2007 16:56	Well, well, well! If you wait long enough, something will turn up. So Jane Walker married Alan Chatterton. Some months ago I posted a note on Sutton Council School Class of '45 seeking news of old classmates and I had nothing by way of a reply. Now I find that one of them is living in Australia? Alan C, do you know owt about the others mentioned in that original posting? Hope you are well Alan.
Alan Thursday, March 22, 2007 18:29	Hello again Jane. Thanks for the reply about George Morrison. I often wondered what had happened to him. This really is becoming involved. Hope that your Mum can remember but at a reasonable hour. Is your Dad still playing football? Whenever I think of him I see him in a pair of long football shorts with a striped shirt and football socks and boots. I think that I recall a photo of the Sutton United team in one of Doris Riley's books. I see that Denis has also found a face from the past. I'd forgotten that he and Alan were at school together. Keep up the good work and try to remember the missing names.
David Laycock Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:24	Hi Alan, Dennis and Jane, Talking about football, I am sure I sent Paul a photo of a football team in those stripes including my Dad and a few others some I know but most ? Did it reach the land over the sea?
joan mcvay nee Walmsley Australia Friday, April 13, 2007 08:55	the young girl standing between Margaret Thompson and Enid foster is Glenys Jones.
paulw webmaster Friday, April 13, 2007 14:19	Hi Joan. Thanks for the message, I've update the caption. Paul
paulw webmaster Friday, April 13, 2007 14:29	David - I'll check back through my emails in case I missed your football photo. Paul
Alan Tuesday, March 11, 2008 17:37	Having met Brian Simons (Correct spelling this time Maureen,) in Keighley this morning I thought I would make things easier for him to find the message in the Forum. The girl that we were discussing is shown incorrectly as Ann Laycock. She stands between Enid Foster and Maureen Cooper, in front of Harry Ingham. Brian I am counting on you. Who is she?
Maurice Atkinson Saturday, May 10, 2008 14:22	Hi...nice to see a picture of my sister Irene on the site! She has been "Riley" since she was eighteen and has lived in Skipton since she got married. She has three sons and several grandchildren.
MAUREEN GREEN Wednesday, October 22, 2008 13:46	Last attempt girl incorrectly identified as Ann Laycock Mrs.Beltons class could it be Valerie Taylor
Paul Wilkinson webmaster Wednesday, October 22, 2008 13:51	Thanks Maureen, I've updated the caption.
Alan Wednesday, October 22, 2008 17:30	Valerie Taylor is the girl sitting on the front row on the right as you look at the picture already named. Paul please will you return the names as they were. Keep thinking Maureen.
Paul Wilkinson webmaster Thursday, October 23, 2008 09:54	Well spotted Alan, I've changed it back.
Brenda Whitaker was Grime Queensland Australia Thursday, February 4, 2010 00:29	Hi As all other comments on here are 4 years old I doubt there is still interest, however having lived overseas for the last 50years I have lost touch with most but do have an interest in the village. A couple of days ago I got onto the site and am facinated. I don't remember why I wasn't in the photo and have difficulty remembering the faces. My lasting memory of Mrs Belton's class is the reading to us one afternoon a week - Emil and the Detectives, and...Les Miserables immediately come to mind. Well done all of you.
Paul Wilkinson webmaster Thursday, February 4, 2010 08:03	Hi Brenda, welcome to the site. Would that be you in one of the photos on the Young People's Fellowship, 1949 - 1955 gallery page?
Brenda Whitaker was Grime Queensland Australia Thursday, February 4, 2010 08:21	Hi Paul - yep - that's me - YPF and McWhinney's party - also the opening of the slide in the park from Walter Thompson... after 50 years away I am out of touch. I don't have any photos to contribute that I am aware of. I gave them to my kids years ago. I will have a hunt to see if there is anything that may be of interest to other Suttoners though. other members of my family contribute though, particularly Barbara Chapman who is married to my uncle Allen.
Denis Marshall Pickles Norfolk Thursday, February 4, 2010 13:54	If you care to search further afield Brenda, have a look at the KBGS website and look at the Miscellaneous photos. I recently posted a copy of the 1951 Girls Grammar School Panorama. Check out Pt 3 and I think you might see yourself in a gymslip kneeling down on the second row.
Alan Pickles Bingley Thursday, February 4, 2010 18:08	Hello Brenda, Thanks for reintroducing the photo into circulation. It is good to hear that you are still alive and kicking. Do you still pack a punch in the right hand? I remember getting a sample of it one evening whilst waiting for the bus home from school. I still don't know what I did to deserve it. You didn't even need lifting up to strike. Always said that the little ones needed more watching. All in the past Brenda and no hard feelings. Take care and give my regards to Bruce and Dennis if they are still around.
Brenda Whitaker was Grime Queensland Australia Thursday, February 4, 2010 20:41	Hi Alan and Denis - I remember that punch too but dont remember what it was about - we waited for that number 8 bus together 5 days a week so there may have been some little thing - !! Bruce is in Sydney and going well and I will pass on your regards and the URL for this. Havent heard from the other name for about 30 years. Denis, thanks for the info on KGGS I will have a look
Alan Pickles Bingley Friday, February 5, 2010 18:48	Brenda, Glad to hear that Bruce is doing well. Sorry to rake up the other name but I had not heard anything about any of you for many a long year. You sound to be surrounded by your family according to the comments in this and the Button Box messages. Your comment about Nan being able to find an answer is also used in our family. Both our Grandsons keep fetching items for repair and expecting a magic wand to cure the problem. Trouble is it generally does. Take care and keep in touch. There must be nearly as many ex Suttoners in Oz as there are left in Sutton. You, David Laycock, Jane Walker and husband Alan, Andrew Monkhouse, and Jane McVay, why don't you open a Sutton in Craven ex pats branch? Alan.
Barbara Chapman Sutton-in-Craven Monday, February 8, 2010 13:50	Hello Denis and Brenda. Just picked up on your note of 4th Feb. re the Panoramic photo of KGGS on the KBGS Website. Took the liberty of having a look. I have a copy of this photo as I am on it too. I was in my first year at the school. I can be found, if you are interested, on Pt 1 Left hand of the photo. Look along the 6th form girls in different uniforms. Count 9 from the left and I am just behind the left shoulder of the 9th girl. Alongside me to my left are 3 more Sutton girls. Anne Longbottom who attended the Church School then Barbara Dawson who lived up Victoria street and then Deana Dawson. As you will already know Nancy Williams is 8th from the left on the front row. She was in my class from the 2nd year onwards, along with Maureen McWhinney. One of my lasting memories of the time was seeing my class mates glued to the classroom windows whenever the boys from KGBS came to play football.
Brenda Whitaker was Grime Queensland Australia Friday, February 12, 2010 03:00	Hi everyone I just wanted to publicly say to all 'websters' that I am really grateful for the help Paul has given me in tracking down a long lost school mate - also for his support of the forum that has enabled me and many others to wallow in nostalgia, find old friends and reunite the memory with old places. The dim dark places of the mind are enhanced by the images and postings on this web site. thank you Paul and thank you Alan for the information and photos you have contributed. A blast from the past! cheers B

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