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Sutton in Craven
Thursday, October 2, 2008 14:49
MORE !! Houses for Sutton
Has everyone seen the proposed building area map in Place,s window ? I think its terrible and if we want to keep Sutton a village we should all write to

Colin Walker,Craven District Council, Granville St, Skipton. TODAY before its too late.
Mr Bilbs
Sutton in Craven
Thursday, October 2, 2008 15:18
Hi Anne

Any chance you can post some details on here?
Paul Wilkinson
Thursday, October 2, 2008 19:39
I don't have any details about this but when I find out I will make sure they are posted here.

There's a Parish Council meeting on Monday (6th), so there is an opportunity to find out more/ make your feelings known.

Paul Wilkinson
Friday, October 3, 2008 08:10
Ok, here's the gist of what it says. There are plans to build 2000 (yes, two thousand) new homes on GREENFIELD sites in Sutton and Cross Hills over the next seven years. The level crossing will be closed permanently and there won't be a bridge.

Effectively, Sutton, Cross Hills and Glusburn will become a "town".

If you have an opinion about this, have a look at the map and notes in the window at Steve Place's shop and write to:

Colin Walker
Director of Environmental & Planning Services
Craven District Council
Council Offices
Granville Street
BD23 1PS

It's important to write AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, all comments must be received by 5pm on Wednesday 10th October 2008.

bryan gill
Friday, October 3, 2008 10:57
Ive written already, sent a copy of inspectors report of 1986 when he turned down an application to build in the field back of rupali.
Denise White
Friday, October 3, 2008 12:24
I am appalled by what I have read on this forum today about the proposed 2000 houses, I am about to put a letter together to send to the council stating my opposition. I suggest we all do the same and tell as many people about it as possible.
Paul Wilkinson
Friday, October 3, 2008 14:55
The map is now available for download, see the topic "2000 houses - the map".
Paul Wilkinson
Friday, October 3, 2008 16:38
More food for thought, here's a link to an interesting article posted today on the Craven Herald website. It says in part...

Craven DC vote next Wednesday on plans to access up to 40 million of Government cash to pay for transport improvements. But, in order to qualify, the council will have to commit to building 300 new homes a year up to 2026 and express its interest in the next two weeks.

Read the article here...

link to Craven Herald article

Dawn - Sutton Park Pavilion
Friday, October 3, 2008 17:02
I cannot express my frustration enough - I am totally against more housing within Sutton.

Why don't these people realise that more homes bring more cars, traffic congestion, noise, pollution, not to mention less availability for schools, dentists, doctors etc.

People in Sutton chose to live here because it is a VILLAGE! Why can the powers-that-be realise that we DO need the diversity of town life and village life and we do not all have to be the same.

Glusburn, Crosshills and Sutton all have their own identities and I am sure most villagers would want it to remain that way instead of having to conform to being a typical homogenised version of every other city.

This country needs villages and towns and cities, let us stay the way we are to reflect our culture.

Oh and don't even get me started on the flood risks.....!

And what is the point of land being declared GREENBELT if they can build on it on this scale? The whole meaning of GREENBELT is just a joke, as it is probably now just a codeword for "available land!"
Friday, October 3, 2008 17:16
Hmmmmmm a decade from now if all goes ahead and the villages merge, will we have Crossburn in Craven in our mapbooks??
Mr Bilbs
Sutton in Craven
Friday, October 3, 2008 17:24
Now having seen the map and planned destruction of the area Im fuming! Could someone please post time and location of parish council meeting as I would like to come along.

This may soud lazy but I am pretty poor at letter writing but could someone put a copy of their letter words on here so we can use it as a template? Sorry to sound lazy :(
Paul Wilkinson
Friday, October 3, 2008 17:57
That's a great idea Mr Bilbs. It would be a big help if someone with experience of this type of thing was to provide a sample letter. Post it anonymously if needs be.

Parish Council meetings commence at 6.45pm in the Senior Citizens' Centre on North Street.

Steve Place
Friday, October 3, 2008 20:12
All Members of Craven District Council will meet on Wennesday 8th October at 6.30pm at the Council Offices, Granville Street, Skipton when the recommendation to be debated will be..."to confirm Council's support for continuing work in relation to Growth Point(the map) and the associated increase in housing numbers and to seek Council approval for moving ahead with a Regeneration Masterplan for South Craven. As residents of Craven, you are allowed both to attend and to speak. I am unable to prejudge the probable outcome, but would suggest you avail yourselves of this opportunity.
Friday, October 3, 2008 20:20
Craven District Council

Extraordinary Meeting of the Council
Council Chamber, Granville Street Offices, Skipton
6.30pm, Wednesday 8th October 2008

This Council meeting was requested by Members and agreed by the Chairman under Council Procedure Rule 3.1. Members of the Council are summoned to consider the following business:

1. Apologies for absence
2. Public Participation - In the event that questions are received, the public participation session will proceed for up to fifteen minutes. In each case, one related supplementary question will be permitted.
3. Chairman's Announcements (if any).
4. Declarations of interest.
5. LEEDS CITY REGION - NEW GROWTH POINT UPDATE - Report of the Strategic Director (Environmental Services) to follow.
Purpose of Report - Further to Policy Committee 24th September (Minute POL.136), to advise Members of recent developments in relation to Growth Points status, and the joint expression of interest for the Community Infrastructure Fund (CIF), and to confirm Council's support for continuing work in relation to Growth Point and the associated increase in housing numbers, and to seek Council approval for moving ahead with a Regeneration Masterplan for South Craven.

Anyone wishing to voice an opinion should do so in Agenda Item 2.
Paul Wilkinson
Friday, October 3, 2008 21:33
So, we are a "Growth Point" in the "Leeds City Region". Putting aside the devastating effect this will have on the village communities, this is a ridiculous idea considering the state of the transport infrastructure along the Aire Valley, which is wholly inadequate as it is - and will be as long as it passes through Saltaire.
Saturday, October 4, 2008 15:43
As a very proud Sutton resident, I agree that these proposals would ruin our beautiful and historic village.

I have emailed the Craven District council office and sent a formal letter to Colin Walker with my strong objections to the proposals.

I would urge others to do likewise and/or attend the meeting on Wednesday.

Make sure your voice is heard!
Chris and Sylvia
Monday, October 6, 2008 18:55
We have just emailed Craven District Council expressing our disgust at these proposals like everyone else we are fuming.
Monday, October 6, 2008 19:40
Apologies as I cannot make the meeting.
I will e-mail Craven District Council to oppose the plans.
To those that are going to the meeting - may the force be with you!!!!!!!
Monday, October 6, 2008 20:51
I have just been to the parish council meeting but unfortunatly I did not get there until approximatly 7:10 so I missed some of the discussions, enough to say that I have since put into Google search box "leeds city region groweth point bid" and it surprising what it shows up. On one of the links there are some minutes of the Leeds City Region Leaders Board and lo and behold our Mr Colin Walker, the officer to address our complaints to, was in attendance on the 7th April 2008. How many more meetings has he attended in our name, without our knowledge, to sell us down the river?
Tuesday, October 7, 2008 07:22
The E-mail address for Colin Waker is:
Chris amd Joanne
Sunday, October 19, 2008 18:32
In order to get the traffic problem sorted at last we should think very carefully about letting this proposal go ahead. More houses, more people, more money to do things, 40 milion will buy a lot of improvements, badly needed. Even our counselors cannot be so out of touch as to not know that if the houses are built without the supporting infrastructures in place the three villages will be more or less permanently grid locked. I was locked out of the meeting at the school with the rest but still want a voice. I live on Station Road, Crosshills, that takes traffic that is excessive and unpoliced, where are the bobbies when large lorries use this 7.5 ton access only route - nowhere to be seen, or stuck in the traffic like me - and it happens daily. What happened to the only feasible plan for a bypass, scuppered by a few vested interests elsewhere in the village. Let the developers come, if we are to continue to have the traffic and other problems of a town, let us at least have the resources and infrastructure of one.
Dawn - Sutton Pavilion
Monday, October 20, 2008 09:17
As far as I am aware, the 40million has already been disignated for a railway station 14million) and making the floodplains viable to build on (26million). Therefore, there would be NO money left for the existing problems to be addressed, and your problems along Station Road (and others) would only get worse. If I have this all wrong, could someone please put me right!
Monday, October 20, 2008 10:33
That's how I see it, but Mr Knowles-Fitton only said money "might" be used for a station. I haven't seen anything that refers to upgrading road networks, education facilities or healthcare facilities. In the grand scheme of things, 40m doesn't buy a lot of infrastructure, and raising the level of flood plains to build on them only makes the flood risk worse for surrounding areas.

I've also wondered how the road infrastructure in Cross Hills could be upgraded - demolish all the frontage and widen the road? Narrow a section of it to only allow traffic to pass in one direction at a time thereby making the congestion so bad that people won't use the road? Surely nobody would suggest that!! Perhaps they're considering changing... nothing.

The local infrastructure is bad enough as it is and the issue should be addressed regardless. In any case, Highways come under the remit of North Yorkshire County Council.

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