Village Web Site Forum

Brenda Whitaker
Queensland Australia
Tuesday, December 11, 2012 21:02
Spin offs from Sutton House information
Your item on Sutton House is brilliant Robin, thank you. I have started a new thread as I dont want to distract from yours and others memories of the building itself.
In reading it I was taken back a good few years, somewhere between 65 and 70 of 'em ... Haver bread, I remember my mother used to buy this, on Tuesdays I think, from someone who delivered, and I am pretty sure it was the same person who sold ginger beer in a stone jar which was replaced each week or refilled I cant remember which.
Breadflake - or bree-ad flake. We had a rack suspended from the ceiling in our kitchen/living room in King Edward Street that was used for airing clothes - but - my mother always referred to it as the bree-ad flake and I never knew why, until now. The haverbread was a long oval shape quite thin, I can just imagine it hanging over the rack, it was long enough! I didnt like it much it was sort of gritty and oaty...and so I put syrup on it to make it palatable. Old and almost forgotten memories are often prompted by items on this site - good for oldies like me but I guess a bit boring for the current generation.
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Tuesday, December 11, 2012 22:10
Paul has now added a 'key word' search facility on the bottom left of the Home Page which is very useful.

Using this search facility it seems there isn't a single photograph of Sutton House in the gallery. It would be nice to be able to see an image of what the house looked/looks like. Itís 32 years since I lived in the village and I just canít place Sutton House in my memory.
Robin Longbottom
Wednesday, December 12, 2012 07:24
Haver comes from hafre, the Norse word for oats, oats was one of the few cereals that grew well in the Pennines, there would have been fields of it grown in Sutton up to the early 19th century. I believe Harry Riley was the last to grow oats up at Hollin Root during WW2. Together with porridge, havercake formed the staple diet for most villagers up to the Great War and after for some, both were made with oatmeal and not with the rolled oats that we see today. The Duke of Wellington's Regiment were known as the 'Havercake Boys' from the days when the recruiting officer marched through towns and villages with an oatcake stuck on his sword to indicate good food and billets. In one case a widow in Stanbury paid her rent in havercake.

The mixture for havercake was usually oatmeal, blue milk and water and a little yeast, the stiff liquid was left to 'sour' overnight. The following day a ladle full of the mixture would be poured onto a wooden board, rather like a large square bat, and then 'thrown' onto the hot bakestone (griddle). The throwing process would make a cake about fourteen inches long and four or five inches wide, when cooked it was hung on the 'breead fleeak' to dry and go crisp. Feathers of Haworth were havercake bakers into the 1960's, my late father and I used to buy it in Keighley Market. It can still be bought in Colne Market, but is no longer made in Yorkshire.

For those with a keen interest in oatmeal porridge for further reading see - Wuthering Heights, chapter 13, good for the dialect if nothing else.
Alan Pickles
Wednesday, December 12, 2012 17:57
Following on Brenda's theme of articles for the older end and Andrew's request for a photo of Sutton House, Is the house referred to the house just below the Ellers on the right hand side of the road going up the hill? It stands alone on the other side of the beck. I have a photo of that house taken a couple of years ago when Denis and I were looking for buildings connected to the Baptist Chapel. I could not remember the name as I had not really known of it's existence before. I had passed it many times but had no reason to tie it to anything. I have sent the photo to your e mail address for you to decide. I hope for Andrew's benefit that it is.
Ken Stares
Thursday, December 13, 2012 13:18
You can still buy haverbread/havercake at Asa Nicholson in
Keelham and I did so recently. I can also recommend their tea-room
Paul Wilkinson
Friday, December 14, 2012 11:02
Hi Alan - thanks for the photo, it is indeed Sutton House from the Ellers side, I've added it to the page in the history section together with a 1938 map showing the location.
Andrew Monkhouse
Hanoi, Vietnam
Friday, December 14, 2012 11:44
Aha, great to finally see a picture of Sutton House although it still looks unfamiliar to me, but then again it's a long time since I lived in the village! Thanks Alan & Paul for providing/posting the image.
Josie Walsh
Friday, December 14, 2012 12:18
Hi Paul, came across a photo of Sutton House in Doris Riley's book, Owd Settings, Sutton in Craven page 7, different view from what you already have.
Paul Wilkinson
Friday, December 14, 2012 12:25
Hi Josie, I had a quick flick through that the other morning but missed it - thanks for pointing it out, I'll add it to the page.

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