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David Laycock
Monday, December 13, 2010 04:21
Calling the Pickles and Monhouses, Christmas guess the names game.
A few names for you to have a go at, from photos to be placed on the web site.
Alan Pickles
Monday, December 13, 2010 08:54
Here I sit with bated breath and can find nothing to get the grey matter moving. Come on, get your act together and let's see the faces.
Paul Wilkinson
Monday, December 13, 2010 13:11
Dr John Laycock sent me four new Sutton County Primary School photos from the 1950s, all need names! There are three class photos and a football team photo. I've given each person a number, if you can identify any pupils, teachers or (in two cases) the year, please let me know. Three of the four images can be "zoomed".

Alan Pickles
Monday, December 13, 2010 17:13
Reference the new photos:- Stanley Bell's class 195?. I think that 205 is David McWhinney and 212 is Stuart Wilson. I don't know if they are of an age and Stuart is the one that I would be more certain of.
The class of 1951 shows one face that I am certain of, 426 is Pauline Robson without a doubt.
These photos were taken after I had gone to Keighley and when the people concerned are younger than me I have difficulty in putting names to them. I doubt that Denis will be able to name any. Perhaps Pauline will take up where I have left off and name the entire class.
Best of luck.
Freda M Bates
Monday, December 13, 2010 18:11
I've got some that I'm pretty sure about. 202 & 330 are Christine Thompson. 221 & 316 are Jean Hardaker. 219 & 317 are Linda Barrett. 318 is Elizabeth chadwick and 319 is Robina Pighills. Most of these are about 2 or 3 years older than me and although I recognise some more faces I cannot put names to them.
Brenda Whitaker was Grime
Queensland Australia
Monday, December 13, 2010 21:23

Here are just a couple more 204 & 333 -Lorraine Watson, 206 - Eileen Harper, 210-Elizabeth Chadwick and 337 - Barry McWhinney.
Once the 'delayed coverage' in my head clears I may be able to name a few more. In the meantime I will ask my younger sisters to have a look.

Denis Marshall Pickles
Tuesday, December 14, 2010 07:35
How right you are Alan. Just two faces that I recognise, Sidney Laycock - because he lived close by in Bent Lane, and John Stanley Bell who, in the early 50's, used to put his arm round me on a Saturday afternoon when we together formed the second row of the Keighlians RUFC scrum.
Margaret Windsor
Tuesday, December 14, 2010 09:13
A few names: 403 David Hustwick, 408 John Parkin,411 Michael Towers, 412 Carol Grosvenor, 415 JudySpencer,418 Frances Burtterfield, 421 Margaret Rishworth(me!) 422 Carol Ashworth, 425 David Laycock, 426 Pauline Robson, 427 Margaret Hargreaves, 428 Kathleen Hargreaves, 432 Linda Fielden, 433 Christine Barsby, 434 Jean Thompson, 435 Jennifer Leach.
Teacher two is Miss Thompson I think.
Paul Wilkinson
Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:40
Thanks for the updates, I've added the names to the pages. Keep 'em coming!
Howard Barrett
Tuesday, December 14, 2010 22:03
The group in John Stanley Bell's class were two years ahead of me. I therefore date the photograph as being the class of 57.
Howard Barrett
Tuesday, December 14, 2010 22:12
Names for John Stanley Bell's class:

201 Mary Whiteoak
203 Dorothy Varley
Currently listed as David McWhinney, I believe to be Michael Smith
208 Pauline French
209 Sylvia Laycock
211 Ian Hudson
Currently listed as Stuart Wilson, I believe to be Adrian Bailey
213 Tony Pickles
214 John Loveday
215 Brian Barrett
216 Roger Smith
217 Andrew Wilson
218 Richard Battarbee
222 Ann Shuttleworth
223 Elizabeth Hinchliffe
224 Jean Parker
225 Elizabeth or Jacqueline Bell
226 Ann Stead
229 Christine Hodgson
230 Pamela Jackson
231 Susan Brown
232 Janice Hugget
234 Peter Dawson
235 Jacky Morrison
Howard Barrett
Tuesday, December 14, 2010 22:32
Football team:

101 Robert Holmes
102 Malcolm Preston
103 David Hopkinson
106 George Burfitt
107 Jacky Morrison
108 ??? Trainer (guess)
109 John Parkin
111 David Hustwick
112 Richard Battarbee
113 David Brierley (guess)
Howard Barrett
Tuesday, December 14, 2010 23:07
Class with lady teacher and Sydney Laycock:

301 Adrian Bailey
302 Trevor Smith
303 Brian Barrett
304 Richard Battarbee
305 George Burfitt
306 Trevor or Terry Dault
308 Andrew Wilson
309 Donald Hanson
310 Ian Hudson
311 Tony Pickles
312 Ann Shuttleworth
313 Glyniss or Glennys Emmott
315 Elizabeth Hinchcliffe
Not convinced it is Elizabeth Chadwick
320 Shirley ???
321 Pauline French
324 Mary Whiteoak
326 Ann?? Butterfield
328 Ann Clifford
329 Dorothy Varley
331 Sylvia Laycock
332 Janice Hugget
334 Christine Hodgson
335 Colin Beige
336 Jacky Morrison
Currently Barry McWhinney, I believe to be Michael Smith
339 Eric Hanson
340 Richard Bramley
341 Patrick Hargreaves
David Laycock
Wednesday, December 15, 2010 04:12
Well well, it did get a bit of a response.
Sutton cp 51 425 not this David. photo 5? Howard, I think is Carol Grosvenor.
Paul Wilkinson
Wednesday, December 15, 2010 15:22
Thanks for all those names Howard, I've updated the pages.
Howard Barrett
Wednesday, December 15, 2010 15:46

I think you've got Mary Whiteoak and Dorothy Varley "muxstip" on the 1957 photo.
Paul Wilkinson
Wednesday, December 15, 2010 16:02
I've unmixed them.
David Laycock
Thursday, December 16, 2010 02:26
Hi Paul, Howard,
Forgot, 318 Carol G
Paul Wilkinson
Thursday, December 16, 2010 08:02
Hi David - I've changed 318 from Elizabeth Chadwick to Carol Grosvenor.
David Laycock
Thursday, December 16, 2010 22:26
Hi Paul,
K, Did my stuff come through as we have just purchased new do it all wisbang printer.
Paul Wilkinson
Friday, December 17, 2010 06:59
Hi David - no stuff has come through.
Melvyn Marchant
Ravenstone Gardens, Sutton-in-Craven
Friday, December 17, 2010 19:36
Hello Howard, Is the "old bird" at the opposite end to Syd, Ma Mullen? She wasn't there a lot, as though she may have been supply staff. Still think the other lass is Elizabeth Chadwick.
Howard Barrett
Saturday, December 18, 2010 00:21

Elizabeth Chadwick has been identified in the 1957 photograph by someone other than me. That girl doesn't look like the same person as the one you believe to be Chad. Further, I believe David Laycock's response above is relating to the same person and names her as Carol Grosvenor. I previously indicated that these classes were two years ahead of me (and you I believe), so I never knew Carol, hence didn't recognise her.

David Laycock's response also dismissed himself as being the person bearing his name. However, I believe Dr John Laycock's brother was called David and 104 in the football team is a dead ringer of Dr John. Given that Margaret Windsor, nee Rishworth named 425 as David Laycock, are 104 and 425 the same person?

I am surprised nobody has recognised 307/110 because of the distinct fair hair. I don't but I do recall two Yelland brothers being in the school, perhaps with first names John and David. The family emigrated to the Antipodes, Oz I believe. Does it ring any bells with anyone?

Further, in mentioning the Antipodes, I recall brothers Michael and Donald Sugden in the school and their family emigrated to Tasmania I think. Is 105 the elder of those two brothers?

Some readers might be interested to learn that the two Sutton schools were combined infants and primary schools, offering a seamless transition between the two, whereas Glusburn school was an infants and secondary school in the same building, prior to South Craven being built. Most of the Glusburn and Crosshills kids went to Glusburn school from age 5 to 7, then were transferred to Sutton from age 7 to 11-plus, to lead a "persona non grata" kind of existence. Those who didn't go on to either a Grammar School or Keighley Technical School returned to Glusburn to complete their secondary education.

This explains why the later photographs don't contain exactly the same cohort as the earlier one, because the Glusburn kids had joined them.
Brenda Whitaker was Grime
Queensland Australia
Saturday, December 18, 2010 02:07
hi guys - these photos are beyond my era at Sutton Council School - however I agree with Howard that the girl identified as Carol Grosvenor is NOT Elizabeth Chadwick - the other photo where Elizabeth appears is numbered '210' in the back row along with my sister Eileen Harper, I believe that one is correct and also on the photo of Sutton Girl Guides 1959 Elizabeth appears - she does not really resemble the girl identified as Carol G (who I don't know incidentally)
Thanks for the additional information Howard. And, I am amazed at your (and Christine's) ability to identify so many people. Thanks again for your input.
Maurice Atkinson
Saturday, December 18, 2010 09:45
I .presume Carol Grosvenor is Barry Grosvenor's sister. I say this because she certainly has similar facial features to Barry when he was boy.
David Laycock
Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:48
Hi Maurice,
You are thinking my way. That's what I thought as I spent a fair bit of time with Barry and Ken. Carol is like her Mum.
Howard Barrett
Saturday, December 18, 2010 16:29

It's a pity that I can't remember what happened 53 hours ago as well as I seem to remember things 53 years ago! It can't be my age because I've looked this old for years!

Christine and I were a couple of years below the class in question, but we knew many of those that we identified for reasons not connected with the school. In fact several of them were part of the second wave of YPF members. I suppose I bridged the two, having been to Winton with several of those on the YPF photographs filed in the gallery. Also, given that siblings were usually spaced 2-3 years apart, we had some of the siblings of the class of 57 in with us in the class of 59.

There hasn't been much response from those actually in the class of 57 has there? They should be able to clear up the few missing names in an instant. They didn't used to be particularly backward at coming forward.
David Laycock
Friday, February 25, 2011 10:21
Is that breath still bated? There's a possibility the photos you were waiting for are on the way to being published!
Paul Wilkinson
Friday, February 25, 2011 13:49
Hi David - I've received your latest photos via Maurice Atkinson thanks, just waiting for the info to follow and I'll add them to the site.
David Laycock
Tuesday, March 1, 2011 20:59
Thanks Paul and Maurice,
One down 5 to go!
Shaun Pye
Thursday, December 22, 2011 08:56
As a Keighley lad who had relatives and friends in the Sutton area many years ago, I was pleased to stumble on this website and had a good browse.
The title of this thread interested me in particular since I had a good friend at secondary school called Tony Pickles. I found two references to a "Tony Pickles" in postings by Howard Barrett :-
"Names for John Stanley Bell's class:
213 Tony Pickles
Class with lady teacher and Sydney Laycock:
311 Tony Pickles"
On checking the photos I found that this was the Tony Pickles I knew.
Does anyone know of his current whereabouts, or have any information about Tony later than 1966?

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