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Sutton in Craven
Saturday, May 2, 2009 02:10
Re the unacceptable sign on Sutton Village Hall.
A lot of people in the village have expressed dismay and concern at the "eyesore" sign on Sutton Village hall.

well I have a good solution to this little problem.

I have designed a new sign that is potentialy more acceptable to the eye and that has in fact met the approval of the village hall administrator.

He is willing to consider replacing the present sign with this one. My suggestion was that those of us in Sutton who agree that the present sign is a complete eyesore would no doubt be willing to pitch in a small amount of money each to have the new sign created thus upholding the character of the village. The new sign will cost approx 50. I figure there are 6 of us who are complaining about the present sign and so the cost will only be 10 each. ( I spent more than 10 in terms of my own time and effort already) The cost could be spread lighter still with a little campaigning. Anyone up for that?

Since the village hall have no legal requirement to replace the sign and incur further costs just because people dont like it, I think it only fair and right that the cost be taken by those of us who dislike the present sign and would like to uphold the character of the village.

Is everyone in agreement ? this seems like a good solution to me.
Paul Wilkinson
Saturday, May 2, 2009 09:30
Hi Basil, your proposed design is a big improvement aesthetically but I'm not prepared to pay anything towards what I consider to be an unworthy cause. What's wrong with placing an advertising sign on the notice board in front of the hall? Surely that's what it's there for.
Saturday, May 2, 2009 10:06
Basil, I applaude your efforts (and your own unique way of advertising your goodself!) but this is as much about attaching signs to the Village Hall itself instead of the noticeboards -of which there are four around the village. The Hall is also very well advertised in the village newsletter which is delivered to every home in the village. This website also contains the newsletter and also hosts a link to the Village Hall webpage, so I do not think I should be asked to dontate money for a new sign for more advertising!

Also, and you may correct me if I am wrong (and maybe I am, I don't know) but if this sign requires planning permission due to its size, and it does not have that permission, then there IS a legal requirement to remove it, regardless of whether we like it or not.

Sutton in Craven
Sunday, May 3, 2009 17:08
Paul..... why would you deem it an unworthy cause? It wasnt unworthy when you started the original post. Surely compromise is the way in all difficult situations and if the sign isnt going to be removed anytime soon then replacing it with one that is as you say " in keeping with the character of the hall and village" then surely it is a very worthy cause, Unless there is a limit to your concern that ends when you have to actualy do something constructive and stop complaining?

Dawn.... I think the purpose of the sign was to allow motorists a convenient way to jot down a number without having to leave the car therefore increasing the convenience of attaining the number and thus increasing the possibiliy of the hall getting hired. ( I for one would value extra interesting events in the hall!) This isnt possible with the small noticeboards as size matters for this strategy.

Look, the choice is simple guys, do we realy care about the visual effect of this sign? if so the lets forget the surrounding perififeral points and just change it for a better looking sign! Its not like it will cost the earth !
We are the ones complaining so lets do something about it! Or are we going to be happy to be seen to shrink away into a corner when we suddenly have to put our money where our mouths are?

Im up for changing the sign and improving the visual effect, if any of you change your mind let me know.

Ive done all I can so Im out of the discussions on this now.

One more thing Dawn, if I was going to self promote then trust me when I say you'd realy know about it. I dont do things by halves! This was a genuine attempt on my part at positive village spirit , not cheap self publicity.
Sunday, May 3, 2009 20:59
There's an even simpler solution - just take the sign down!
D Dear
Sunday, May 3, 2009 22:30
I can't really believe how much fuss is being made by one sign on a building. I can't really believe that there is not a petition going around the village to get this sign removed, or some-one organising a creation of a new commitee to get rid of the sign.

I personally think the sign is fine, its gets staright to the point and is readable,so what are people complaining about.
Monday, May 4, 2009 14:29
New competition for everyone. Go round the village and count how many signs are on our local buildings, schools, pubs, church etc. Then stop this!

This does not show our village in a good light. And as for petitions etc please tell me that's not true. As I have said before there are much more serious issues in our village that demand our energies.

This looks personal and very unfair.

When we discussed concerns over the bonfire. We were supportive and offered advice. We didn't rip it apart. Our village hall also deserves such courtesy.

Paul Wilkinson
Monday, May 4, 2009 15:40
Hi Jin - I believe D Dear was being sarcastic in his/her comments.

Yes, you are right - the village hall does deserve treating with respect!

Monday, May 4, 2009 17:57
Yes I was being Sarcastic and I agree with Jin we do have much more serious issues in the village like creation of jobs, instead people seem more bothered about a sign.
Andrew Monkhouse
Tuesday, May 5, 2009 03:42
An issue that feels important to one person may seem trivial to the next person and vice versa, no rights or wrongs that I can see.

As an aside, I was wondering whether Stephen Barraclough still resides in the village. I remember from our primary school days that his birthday is on the 5th May (God only knows why superfluous information such as this should hang around in my long term memory). Anyway, happy birthday Stephen wherever you are. 49 today you old bugger!

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